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Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby... Again

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gaius wrote:
I, too, like black's play. In fact, I think the board almost looks like a 5-stone game now!


How do professionals stop this from happening. Even pro vs pro handi games seem to stay "around {x} stones", with {x} being the original number (at least, looking at Kageyama's they do).

There's an art there somewhere, because mine fall apart if my opponent plays solid/thick attacking Go with his stones
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Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby... Again

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cyclops wrote:
Magicwand wrote:"when you save drowning man they claim that you stole something from him."
moral of the story: when your opponent is about to drown push him down and make sure he is dead.


So you know your fate, Kirby.


actually i was the drowning man in this case not kirby. :)
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Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby... Again

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for observers:
i just realized a mistakes on my last move.
i should've played as below.
i guess i was too happy that my opponent let me loose i didnt think more than few second on the move.
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[go]$$Wcm21
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . 9 X 0 . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . . O 7 8 . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby... Again

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Hmm, now I'm curious...

I feel a bit at a loss right now. I want to push ahead... But what about this cut, which makes me uneasy:

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . O X 4 . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . . O 2 3 . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Other moves in the local area also seem possible, but none feel as good as pulling ahead... I'm going to mull over this a bit more...
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Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby... Again

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm21
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Well, I can't think of a better move. Anything else locally seems like I will fall behind his stones...
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Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby... Again

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm21
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


i didnt read toomuch on this but i have a feeling that he made a mistake.
i think that weakness on black will guarantee life on the white group.
as i said it is only a feeling but usually correct.

after some reading:
i am probing if he wants to play ko fight or peep.
below two diag will show you the difference if he decide to peep.
i will fight ko because i have good ko threat.
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[go]$$Wcm31
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O 5 O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X 4 2 3 1 6 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm31
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . . O 3 4 . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O . . O X X 6 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X 7 2 . 1 5 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


my mistake actually helped him make a bigger mistake.

lesson to be learn: when you are ahead you must play solid game.
kirby is giving me a chance to comeback from despirate situation.
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm21
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . 2 O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I guess he'll play here:
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[go]$$Wcm21
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . W X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think it's a fair result for black. I really couldn't get myself to play anything other than my last move, because I didn't want to fall behind his stones.
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[go]$$Wcm21 black: 1 white: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . . O 5 . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O 4 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . 3 X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

wow.. i will save my ajikeshi ko for now.
i guess he might ignore me. or not??
nomatter what this is my only choice.
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[go]$$Wcm21 black: 1 white: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . a . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . . O 5 . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O 4 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . 3 X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Interesting... If I answer his threat, maybe I can use "a":
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[go]$$Wcm21 black: 1 white: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . a O 5 6 . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O 4 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . 3 X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


But this will require some more thought...
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Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby... Again

Post by Loons »

Very exciting match.

Sometimes black cannot permit this. This time does not seem to be one of those times though, so I'm just making noise, really.

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[go]$$Wcm21 black: 1 white: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . O X 1 . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O . . O X X 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Wcm21 black: 1 white: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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Meh, what the heck. I'll continue to ko...
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Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby... Again

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i was going to use ko threat as below..but i was afraid he might not answer my threat.
so i decided to use ajikeshi ko threat. this ko threat is very important for me to win.

in my opinion he can lose the threat and play somewhere twice and still will be good game for black.
for me, if i lose this ko then i am in big hole. i was lucky that he answered my threat on prior move.
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I'd ignore MW's threat
Sanity is for the weak.
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Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby... Again

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I wouldn't. Given Magicwand's current predicament, the atsusa ;-) seems too good for white IMO.

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Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby... Again

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[go]$$Wcm31 black: 2 white: 2
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I will play here. He might ignore the threat, but if he does, then the marked stones are absolutely safe, even if I tenuki. For example:
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