Yes, vanished after many people had entered their data. This is why I’m wary of entering my date in this new site.

Greetz, Tom

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No reply yet, mh? :-/


Yes, as is to be read in this thread and the old one was done by the same person who has up to now declined to reply to questions raised in this thread, namely what happened to the old data that people readily confided to him.


Regards, Tom

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I'd bet for a "data vanished inside a lost/uncared-for server."

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Yeah, “me too”, I guess simply not paid for the domain. But, TBH, this looks to me more like advertising (cf. the “Hire me” link) than like real care for the Go community, and again it asks for registration (or for login using our Facebook or Google accounts) … and then he doesn’t even care to answer the questions asked here?

Uhm…

Cordially, Tom

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Dylan Carter’s “World Go Clubs Map” is “open” in that it won’t go down when somebody doesn’t pay for their domain, in that you “only” need a Google Account (which many people already have) so won't have to give somebody of dubious credibility (Sorry, Chuck!) their data.

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Can we add National Go Associations?

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Whom are you asking?

In Dylan Carter’s “World Go Clubs Map” you can (extra layer for these), and many already are there.

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I can understand your dubiousness about the purpose of the site, but why the objection to registration? The only purpose of the site is to register your name / rank / location so that you can find and be found by other people who might live near you. How would that be accomplished without registration?

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"You see, this is why go is so difficult. But also why go is so interesting." --Yuan Zhou

“dubiousness”, mh? I see where you’re aiming at

Cf. the other posts in this thread, and have you actually checked the aforementioned mentioned “World Go Clubs Map” that runs on Google Maps?

Since Google already has the data of so many people, why give them again to somebody who has not yet explained 1) why an exactly same project he ran a few years ago died, and 2) what happened to the data that people gave him?

I don’t understand why one would want to do that, given that there is an alternative that is more open, as explained before.

Tom

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Agree with Tom here. I work in "web stuff" (it's hard to explain what I do ) but the main thing is that I want to maximise revenue (so it implies a lot of tools/tasks/specific knowledge.) And there's nothing we like more than having emails of people... well, a website that gets people to visit more or less frequently and be bombarded with ads AND grabs emails of unsuspecting users. See what I aim at?

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Great stuff! Hoping to find a lot more people around my area who like to play! I also wonder how many people are actually around me, but they probably aren't going to sign up or have no idea about L19 or the findgoplayers website.

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Fully agreed with Tom & RBerenguel.

I'm also in the tech sector, and I won't be signing up for anything without knowing the details.

WGCM for me.

Given the hostility that the creator has undoubtedly seen in this thread, I'm not surprised that he hasn't responded to questions. I know I sure wouldn't, were I in his place.

This guy has made a free service for the fledgeling Western Go community (a community that needs all the help it can get) - and his greatest crime seems to be that he tried to run a similar site before and it went down?

Sorry, unless you guys have evidence that this is an e-mail harvesting operation (and I've seen nothing but idle speculation), then I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt. This guy also apparently ran a Go import company, for which I've found no complaints from any customers while he was running it.

I also don't see the issue with his "Hire Me" link. He's attached a minor, unobtrusive link to his services/resume on a free tech project (i.e., a demonstration of his skills and gift to the community), in case anyone sees this work and is interested (or wants to help a fellow community member out). What exactly is wrong with that?

From what I gathered here the problem is not that he made a similar project before, but that i vanished under unknown circumstances, while not providing any information of what happened with the data. At that point the burden of proof of not running a shady operation lies very much on him.

Last time he was even more active in the community starting igolocal. Now he started a site and isn't communicating at all. Thinking this site will last more than one seems optimistic to me, and trying to get the community to flock to a new site all the time isn't beneficial. People will eventually give up. The previous go map on google seems a much better idea for the resource.

It vanished without even as much as a distress call - it would most likely have been possible to find someone to take over. All the while people were volunteering for translations etc. and then one day... Some people were worried about him, trying to contact him, but nothing. Now coming back without "sorry" and just "I am back" as if nothing happened won't cut it for many.

(While my voluntary data entry enthusiasm has cooled somewhat over the last year, I don't get why the hire me link should make the new page any more suspicious than everything else in the interwebs incl. of course google. Asking about the data when the page vanished imo misses the point, you don't have to kill a page to reap the data, it isn't corn.)

However, in its absence I noticed that, although I like the ideas for others in areas with few go players, I personally do not need it. And well, most people do not need it. They may sign up, but the community urge to replace it. when it fell inactive, simply did not exist.

It's a good idea - even if the author has done it before - but I could not add myself and a dojo - just either one or the other - so I chose the London City club - and I hope that all visitors to London will drop by

The site is down for me.

It was just a matter of time.