Sensei's down can't dansoo with myself

happysocks · Post by **happysocks** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:16 pm

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Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:44 pm

Frankly, I have no idea what you're on about but...

RBerenguel · Post by **RBerenguel** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:53 pm

Charlie wrote:Frankly, I have no idea what you're on about but...

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Rethink 3 in your second answer

Abyssinica · Post by **Abyssinica** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:00 am

RBerenguel · Post by **RBerenguel** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:05 am

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This took way longer than it should have because I was fooling with N9 as black 1 for some reason.

xed_over · Post by **xed_over** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:14 am

happysocks wrote: a term I've seen used there before but am not sure of the meaning: "You can take advantage of whites self-dansoo and capture white."

yes, dansoo == atari

Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:29 am

RBerenguel: strue. One should never submit tsumego solutions before their first cup of coffee.

RBerenguel · Post by **RBerenguel** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:49 am

Charlie wrote:RBerenguel: strue. One should never submit tsumego solutions before their first cup of coffee.

We are in the same timezone (or 1 up/down) so... Totally true!

happysocks · Post by **happysocks** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:42 am

Charlie wrote:Frankly, I have no idea what you're on about but...

Often wonder myself; but seeing your little dancer shimee up as first riposte made me smile.

Abyssinica wrote:This took way longer than it should have...

Like running into these types of problems even though am not sure what it is about them exactly that frequently makes me pause, guess it's to do with the fuzzy picture that comes up after a few moves reading and that the stones being captured can't play to a vital point becaues would be selfie.

xed_over wrote:yes, dansoo == atari

Ah, literally atari, yes, makes more sense. Thank you.

Time to find my first cup...

Thanks for playing everyone.

Aidoneus · Post by **Aidoneus** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:11 pm

Zombie dancing to the original:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG1NrQYXjLU

EdLee · Post by **EdLee** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:52 pm

dansoo == atari

Interesting, thanks for pointing this out.

I read it as an off-spelling of the katakana dansu ダンス, to dance,
and about not being able to dance with oneself.

Shall We Dansu ?

happysocks · Post by **happysocks** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:24 pm

Thanks for the links guys. Zombies freak me out so will leave that one for other viewers to enjoy. Masayuki film looks right up my alley.

Loons · Post by **Loons** » Sat Aug 09, 2014 5:50 pm

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One thing I dislike about tsumego like this is that there's an answer and there's an obvious answer, whereas in a game you don't know whether there's an answer or not.

DrStraw · Post by **DrStraw** » Sat Aug 09, 2014 5:56 pm

Loons wrote:One thing I dislike about tsumego like this is that there's an answer and there's an obvious answer, whereas in a game you don't know whether there's an answer or not.

There is always an answer in a game. We just don't always know what it is.

GoRo · Post by **GoRo** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:00 am

DrStraw wrote:There is always an answer in a game. We just don't always know what it is.

First you have to find the question, otherwise there can't be an answer.
That's why sensei Hwang In-seong emphasizes his master's word:

Don't look for answers, but for questions.

This is shown at the very beginning of https://www.facebook.com/groups/yunguseng

Cheers,
Rainer
(GoChild GoRo with 2289742 points)

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