Relationships - better off without 'em?

[topazg]

Two more possible go-students

There's a video on here somewhere of one of them having lots of fun capturing stones - the minipogo thread or something I think... aiming for 1d by her 4th birthday

[fwiffo]

Anybody want a PS3 or Hello Kitty toothbrush? She's shown no signs that she's going to come to claim them (or return my BtVS DVDs or my DS). I'm gonna give it a few weeks, then it all goes on eBay.

[simpkin]

Ladies, feel free to reverse genders here.

IIRC, ~10% of the population is gay, and quite a lot of others bisexual. In the UK, ~12% of Go players are female.

What I'm saying here is: there may well be as many men on this forum who should be asked this question about men, rather than women, as there are women.

HTH, HAND.

Sorry -- if you're having a rough time at the moment, I don't want to sound as if I'm getting at you. But the assumption that everyone is straight really bugs me.

(And before someone tells me I'm "letting my sexuality get in the way of my morality" or something, as I have been told when promoting LGBT rights in the past, as it happens, I'm straight. I'm just generally an equality campaigner.)

[fwiffo]

That's fair. Anyhow, I wasn't really making assumptions, I was being pithy. But gay gentlemen should feel free to reverse the genders in my original question also, gay ladies should feel free to keep them the same, and bisexuals should feel free to include both.

[simpkin]

Anybody want a PS3 or Hello Kitty toothbrush? She's shown no signs that she's going to come to claim them (or return my BtVS DVDs or my DS). I'm gonna give it a few weeks, then it all goes on eBay.

This is one less problem for you! I'm actually happy for your sake, and so should you be.

Ladies, feel free to reverse genders here.

IIRC, ~10% of the population is gay, and quite a lot of others bisexual. In the UK, ~12% of Go players are female.

What I'm saying here is: there may well be as many men on this forum who should be asked this question about men, rather than women, as there are women.

I hate political correctness and I couldn't care less what people do in their bedrooms, kitchen tables or whatever. In my mind the majority of humanity are perverts of one kind or another. I saw the question in the thread as pertaining to problems with cross gender relations. (If anyone wishes to make it in include other types of interpersonal relations they are of course free to do so.) There are so many minorities one is supposed to tiptoe around and I just won't do it. I respect (some) individuals, not groups.

People are people, not stereotypes.

I don't know what political correctness is.

I saw a question which appeared, on first glance, to be suggesting that either this forum or the Go community might be better off without women. This sort of thing happens occasionally in geeky bits of the 'net. I prepared to get angry, then saw that it was posted by Fwiffo and realised it couldn't possibly be that. Then I looked at the first post, and realised it was a question entirely not about gender, but about relationships. And then I felt irritable about the fact that it was phrased so badly that the content of the thread wasn't obvious from the header. And that while it wasn't excluding me, it was excluding - assuming the non-existence of - some members of the community. When it could just have said "Relationships: are they a waste of time?".

[fwiffo]

Before this even gets started, I'll remind everyone that this forum has the same rule about political discussions that godiscussions.com had; basically, do not engage in them. /admin-voice

Edit: thread locked

[amnal]

If I accuse someone of 'political correctness' now, does that make the thread political again?

Also, Helel, grow up.