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Offline Kerby
 Post subject: Re: 52. Dusk Eagle (1k) vs "Kerby" (2k)
Post #81 Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:39 am 
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[go]$$Wcm78 Move 78 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . 1 O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I wasn't expecting this choice. It doesn't protect Dusky from the peep later on. I was expecting this which seems like a superior shape:
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[go]$$Bcm77 Move 77 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . 1 X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Now I still have a potential peep later at "a" I just have to be careful to watch my bottom left stones:
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[go]$$Bcm77 Move 77 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . 2 O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . 1 . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . a . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I need to figure out how to best attack his group in the middle I think a peep is a good start:
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[go]$$Wcm78 Move 78 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . 1 O . . . . . . . X . a . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Dusk Eagle
 Post subject: Re: 52. Dusk Eagle (1k) vs "Kerby" (2k)
Post #82 Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:15 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm79 Move 79 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . 1 X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
He still has some weakness in this shape. My move minimizes his liberties on these two stones and maximizes the amount of points I keep in the corner. Now, will he follow-up with this descent or play elsewhere?

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . 1 O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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 Post subject: Re: 52. Dusk Eagle (1k) vs "Kerby" (2k)
Post #83 Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:42 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm80 Move 80 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 1 . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Probe first then fix my holes on the left side. He will respond at the top at a or b, b I have ko life, at a I just have lots of ko threats. I will turn and attack his middle stones after.
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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 1 . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . b a . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X 3 O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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 Post subject: Re: 52. Dusk Eagle (1k) vs "Kerby" (2k)
Post #84 Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:36 pm 
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@Kerby:
If he plays b, how do you get a ko?
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Post #85 Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:46 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm81 Move 81 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . 1 . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

That move is just stupid. A move like that says that he is going to resign soon. The only valid threat that his move carries is him trying to get :w1: below in sente.

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . 2 X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . 1 . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Okay, so he might be able to get it, but it won't matter. :w3: will still be gote, and he will still be behind. If he actually expects :w80: to live, then he is both desperate and wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: 52. Dusk Eagle (1k) vs "Kerby" (2k)
Post #86 Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:07 pm 
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If he plays b, how do you get a ko?


Hey Shaddy,
Here is how I see it:
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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 4 3 1 . c . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . b 2 7 . a . 5 . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X 6 X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If "a" must win this ko:
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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . 8 . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | 4 2 X O . 1 . O . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . 3 6 X . . X X X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . 7 X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


"b" just seems alive to me:
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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . 1 X O . . 2 O . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X X X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


After looking at it again though I don't see a solution for him playing "c" though I can get a stronger wall/1,000,000 ko threats, if he played this choice I would attack his middle stones and aim for some territory in the center maybe like this:

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . 1 . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . X O 9 4 5 O . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X 7 2 X X X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X 6 3 . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . a . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #87 Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:11 pm 
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Post #88 Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:11 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm82 Move 82 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . 1 . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I decided I should attack his middle stones first, then fix my left side. Both are urgent, but I feel his middle stones are worth more. My bottom center is equal to his lower right and left corners. I need to make my 2 sides and center bigger then his top. Its going to be tough to do, but I think it is still possible. I have to be very careful and take my opportunities when I can.

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Post #89 Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:22 pm 
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Kerby wrote:
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[go]$$Wcm82 Move 82 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . 1 . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I decided I should attack his middle stones first, then fix my left side. Both are urgent, but I feel his middle stones are worth more. My bottom center is equal to his lower right and left corners. I need to make my 2 sides and center bigger then his top. Its going to be tough to do, but I think it is still possible. I have to be very careful and take my opportunities when I can.


Hey Kerby:
This move feels way out of left field, but after staring at it for a while it doesn't seem like black can contain it.

I'm wondering what made you think to even consider it. Is it a well known vulnerability of this sort of shape? It's not a move that would even show up on my radar.

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Post #90 Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:07 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm83 Move 83 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . O 1 . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Okay, now he's back where he needs to be if he wants to win the game. I guess :w80: was more of a probe than an actual attempt at living in the corner.

Basically, I think the game comes down to this: if he kills me, he will probably win. If I live, I will win. I think I have a pretty good shot at living right now. I will connect here and see how he plans to attack me.

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . 6 . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 7 5 X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . O X . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . 3 X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X 1 4 O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . 2 O 8 . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . 9 . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

He probably will not play :w1:, as this path doesn't look very promising for him.

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . 5 X 9 O X . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . 6 4 3 1 8 X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O 2 X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . 0 . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

He will lose a lot on the bottom this way.

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . O X . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Maybe he'll play this.

It should be interesting to see his next move!

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Post #91 Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:27 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm79 Move 79 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , 1 . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | 6 5 X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | 8 4 X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . 2 3 O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . 7 X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | 9 . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Corner is reduced by ~8 (rough estimate, did not count) points and black does not have endgame at A8, so i think this move is worth "only" 10 points in reverse sente. Shouldn't black tenuki and play for example 1? as an urgent point?

p.s. Maybe let's ask players?
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Post #92 Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 6:56 am 
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Hey Dusker I won't be around today after this post so feel free to take your time. Weekends are really busy for me this summer.
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[go]$$Wcm84 Move 84 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . O X . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X 1 . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Here is what I am aiming for, I don't have much time to explain so Here's a quick synopsis:
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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . e . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . d . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . a . X . O X . O X . . |
$$ | . X X b O . . . . . . 6 2 X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O 3 X 1 5 O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . 4 O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . c O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I haven't chosen my exact next move if this sequence occurs I assume around "a" Some moves I really want are "b-d". If I can keep Dusk to one eye in the middle area "c" might become a sente move for me :) I really want to play "b" asap as it is urgent, but I still feel attacking his group in the middle is worth more. Perhaps later "e" will help me solidify territory in the center.

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Post #93 Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:49 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm85 Move 85 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . O X . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . 1 X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think the move below works, though it took me a while to see that it does. Even so, it's very risky.

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . 5 . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 6 4 X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . O X . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . 2 X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X O 3 O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . 1 O 8 . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . 7 9 , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I won't have enough points so :b7: above doesn't work.

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[go]$$Bcm7
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X 6 . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . O X . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . O X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . X O 1 . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . 2 3 , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . 5 4 . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This looks bad.

Fortunately, I think that me playing at :w12: above is sente to net his middle stones:

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . 3 . . X 1 . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . O X . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . O X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . X O 2 . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

So, he can't play :w2:, and must instead:

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . 1 X X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . O X . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . O X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . X O 2 . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . 3 4 , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . 7 6 5 . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . 0 8 9 . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm11
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . O B B . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O B . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . O B . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . O B . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X O B O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . X O X . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O 5 X . O X , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X 6 O 1 X 2 . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . O X O . 3 O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . X X O . 4 . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

It appears that it turns into a multi-step ko for him. This seems like a good result for me. I also believe that I win a semeai between his bottom stones and my :bc: stones. Of course, if I'm wrong, I would probably lose the game.

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So, because of the huge risk involved, I think it's safer to play this way.
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . O X . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . B X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O 4 X O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . 8 6 2 1 3 O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . 9 7 O 5 X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #94 Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:49 am 
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[go]$$Wcm86 Move 86 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . O X . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O 1 X O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Usually fighting isn't my strongest point. Being a peaceful player and all. But sometimes it is just forced upon us. I really need to maintain sente in this fight so that I can fix my left side.

I feel Dawn Eagle will be pressured to fix his cuts at "a" and "b" before he can turn to attack the left side as mentioned in my previous post.
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[go]$$Bcm85 Move 85 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . O X . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . a X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . b . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Harleqin
 Post subject: Re: 52. Dusk Eagle (1k) vs "Kerby" (2k)
Post #95 Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:55 am 
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Post #96 Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:56 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm87 Move 87 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . O X . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . 1 O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I'm very surprised by his move. It seems to make it way too easy for me to make two eyes this way.

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[go]$$Bcm87 Move 87 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X 3 O X . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X O 2 O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . 1 O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #97 Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:45 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm88 Move 88 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . O X . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X O 1 O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . X O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

As per plan

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Post #98 Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:10 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm89 Move 89 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X 1 O X . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X O O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . X O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #99 Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:53 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm89 Move 89 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . 1 . X X O X . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X O O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . X O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I need to make 30ish points in these 3 areas the left, the middle and reducing Dusk's. If Dusk gives me a chance to solidify the left side I think it will be possible, but I feel he will take his chance now to destroy the left. Depending on what happens the next few moves I will either resign or if things look possible I will try to squeeze out the points I need.

P.S. If any weaker players are interested in a Malkovich game against me I would be up for playing one :) PM me and perhaps we can start one up.

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Post #100 Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:41 am 
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[go]$$Bcm91 Move 91 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . O . X X O X . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X O O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . X O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

There's a little bit of weakness in his right side group that this move lets me aim at, which I can lean on to make me stronger.

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . 3 4 . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . 5 O 6 . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . 7 1 2 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . O . X X O X . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X O O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . X O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Also, by running toward the top, it becomes harder for him to attack me for profit. If I ran to the left side, he may be able to attack and seal off the top, making a lot of points.

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