I want to study several games where a player has a lot of influence. I want to do this to study what strong players end up doing with said thickness/influence. I tried looking for games randomly but that's a bit tough to do.
So I'm hoping some of you might help me. I'm looking for games played by professionals or high/mid-dan players. Where a position arises that one player has a nice wall/sphere/area of influence and looking to see how both players handle it. How does the opponent try to render the wall/thickness/... useless, on the other hand how does the pro/dan player make his influence work.
Looking for game records with large influence
-
Ian Butler
- Lives in gote
- Posts: 646
- Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:09 pm
- GD Posts: 0
- Has thanked: 62 times
- Been thanked: 116 times
-
topazg
- Tengen
- Posts: 4511
- Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:08 am
- Rank: Nebulous
- GD Posts: 918
- KGS: topazg
- Location: Chatteris, UK
- Has thanked: 1579 times
- Been thanked: 650 times
- Contact:
Re: Looking for game records with large influence
You could do a lot worse than looking through Takemiya Masaki title matches
-
Ian Butler
- Lives in gote
- Posts: 646
- Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:09 pm
- GD Posts: 0
- Has thanked: 62 times
- Been thanked: 116 times
Re: Looking for game records with large influence
topazg wrote:You could do a lot worse than looking through Takemiya Masaki title matches
Good tip!
-
Bill Spight
- Honinbo
- Posts: 10905
- Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:24 pm
- Has thanked: 3651 times
- Been thanked: 3373 times
Re: Looking for game records with large influence
Here is an interesting Yasui Senchi Castle Game. 
The Adkins Principle:
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
-
Bill Spight
- Honinbo
- Posts: 10905
- Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:24 pm
- Has thanked: 3651 times
- Been thanked: 3373 times
Re: Looking for game records with large influence
Another Castle Game. With Sakaguchi Sentoku I.
The Adkins Principle:
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
-
Ian Butler
- Lives in gote
- Posts: 646
- Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:09 pm
- GD Posts: 0
- Has thanked: 62 times
- Been thanked: 116 times
Re: Looking for game records with large influence
Thank you, Bill. I'll be using both of these for my studying!
-
Ian Butler
- Lives in gote
- Posts: 646
- Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:09 pm
- GD Posts: 0
- Has thanked: 62 times
- Been thanked: 116 times
Re: Looking for game records with large influence
A beautiful game just fell in my lap today. Was played about a month ago between Cho Chikun and Shibano Toramaru. Amazing game and great influence to be found and used!
Re: Looking for game records with large influence
Here are some pro game videos i think you may need:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCe7CiMKoyzhtHHdqIF4ePsw
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCe7CiMKoyzhtHHdqIF4ePsw
-
Ian Butler
- Lives in gote
- Posts: 646
- Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:09 pm
- GD Posts: 0
- Has thanked: 62 times
- Been thanked: 116 times
Re: Looking for game records with large influence
Thanks for that link, too!
Anyway, I've already gone over a few games, still have many to go.
Today I played a game and I was building a lot of influence myself. So I decided to try and use the influence as I've already seen.
What I've noticed so far (could be wrong, though!) is that:
- pros tend to ignore their own influence. aka they play completely away.
- they keep their influence there and push their opponents towards it.
- they make points elsewhere on the board because of said pushing.
In the game I played, my influencal stones end up making 4 points on their own, but serve their function better in the middle game, I think.
So here's the game where I tried to put the teachings into practise. Let me know what you think of it!
Anyway, I've already gone over a few games, still have many to go.
Today I played a game and I was building a lot of influence myself. So I decided to try and use the influence as I've already seen.
What I've noticed so far (could be wrong, though!) is that:
- pros tend to ignore their own influence. aka they play completely away.
- they keep their influence there and push their opponents towards it.
- they make points elsewhere on the board because of said pushing.
In the game I played, my influencal stones end up making 4 points on their own, but serve their function better in the middle game, I think.
So here's the game where I tried to put the teachings into practise. Let me know what you think of it!
-
Ian Butler
- Lives in gote
- Posts: 646
- Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:09 pm
- GD Posts: 0
- Has thanked: 62 times
- Been thanked: 116 times
Re: Looking for game records with large influence
Thanks for that link, too!
Anyway, I've already gone over a few games, still have many to go.
Today I played a game and I was building a lot of influence myself. So I decided to try and use the influence as I've already seen.
What I've noticed so far (could be wrong, though!) is that:
- pros tend to ignore their own influence. aka they play completely away.
- they keep their influence there and push their opponents towards it.
- they make points elsewhere on the board because of said pushing.
In the game I played, my influencal stones end up making 4 points on their own, but serve their function better in the middle game, I think.
So here's the game where I tried to put the teachings into practise. Let me know what you think of it!
Anyway, I've already gone over a few games, still have many to go.
Today I played a game and I was building a lot of influence myself. So I decided to try and use the influence as I've already seen.
What I've noticed so far (could be wrong, though!) is that:
- pros tend to ignore their own influence. aka they play completely away.
- they keep their influence there and push their opponents towards it.
- they make points elsewhere on the board because of said pushing.
In the game I played, my influencal stones end up making 4 points on their own, but serve their function better in the middle game, I think.
So here's the game where I tried to put the teachings into practise. Let me know what you think of it!