Looking for game records with large influence

[Ian Butler]

I want to study several games where a player has a lot of influence. I want to do this to study what strong players end up doing with said thickness/influence. I tried looking for games randomly but that's a bit tough to do.

So I'm hoping some of you might help me. I'm looking for games played by professionals or high/mid-dan players. Where a position arises that one player has a nice wall/sphere/area of influence and looking to see how both players handle it. How does the opponent try to render the wall/thickness/... useless, on the other hand how does the pro/dan player make his influence work.

[topazg]

You could do a lot worse than looking through Takemiya Masaki title matches

[Ian Butler]

You could do a lot worse than looking through Takemiya Masaki title matches

Good tip!

[Bill Spight]

Here is an interesting Yasui Senchi Castle Game.

(;SZ[19]FF[3]
PW[Kono Mototora]
PB[Yasui Senchi]
EV[Castle Game]
DT[1783-12-10 (Tenmei 3 XI 17)]
KM[0]
RE[B+3 (Moves after 233 not recorded)]
US[GoGoD95]
;B[qd];W[dc];B[ep];W[oq];B[po];W[qp];B[qo];W[rp];B[qk];W[oc];B[pe];W[lc]
;B[de];W[ce];B[cf];W[cd];B[df];W[ed];B[nd];W[nc];B[le];W[ke];B[kf];W[kd]
;B[jf];W[pj];B[pk];W[oj];B[ok];W[nj];B[ri];W[ng];B[md];W[mc];B[lj];W[pg]
;B[mh];W[qf];B[qh];W[nk];B[oh];W[nh];B[ph];W[og];B[ni];W[mi];B[oi];W[lh]
;B[mg];W[od];B[oe];W[mf];B[lg];W[lf];B[kg];W[ne];B[rf];W[qe];B[re];W[qg]
;B[rg];W[pd];B[np];W[nq];B[mp];W[io];B[iq];W[kp];B[kn];W[hq];B[hr];W[gq]
;B[ip];W[hp];B[gr];W[fq];B[eq];W[fr];B[er];W[es];B[ds];W[fs];B[ho];W[go]
;B[hn];W[dr];B[jo];W[cq];B[gn];W[do];B[dn];W[cn];B[cm];W[co];B[dm];W[ff]
;B[dd];W[ec];B[cc];W[bc];B[cb];W[bb];B[bf];W[be];B[ae];W[bd];B[eo];W[jr]
;B[ir];W[mq];B[bn];W[bo];B[bm];W[ao];B[fg];W[gg];B[fh];W[ig];B[ji];W[gh]
;B[gi];W[hi];B[gj];W[hj];B[hh];W[hg];B[fe];W[jh];B[kh];W[jj];B[hk];W[ki]
;B[li];W[kj];B[kk];W[jk];B[kl];W[gk];B[dp];W[cp];B[ik];W[jl];B[fi];W[hl]
;B[gl];W[rd];B[hd];W[lp];B[lo];W[pp];B[oo];W[rn];B[ro];W[so];B[fb];W[hb]
;B[fc];W[lk];B[ll];W[ij];B[fk];W[qm];B[pm];W[rl];B[rk];W[qc];B[jc];W[jb]
;B[kr];W[jq];B[js];W[lr];B[jm];W[il];B[bq];W[br];B[cs];W[bs];B[fp];W[gp]
;B[fo];W[cr];B[ds];W[cs];B[ar];W[ap];B[aq];W[qn];B[ql];W[sl];B[ic];W[ib]
;B[kc];W[kb];B[fd];W[db];B[gf];W[mj];B[mk];W[je];B[he];W[if];B[lk];W[pn]
;B[on];W[hc];B[id];W[gc];B[gd];W[gk];B[hk];W[ad];B[af];W[an];B[am];W[hm]
;B[gm];W[op];B[mo];W[kq];B[ks];W[is];B[hs];W[ls];B[is];W[jp];B[in];W[se]
;B[sf];W[sd];B[sk];W[sm];B[ie]
)

[Bill Spight]

Another Castle Game. With Sakaguchi Sentoku I.

(;SZ[19]FF[3]
PW[Inoue Shuntatsu Inseki]
PB[Sakaguchi Sentoku I]
EV[Castle Game]
DT[1774-12-19 (Anei 3 XI 17)]
PC[Edo Castle]
KM[0]
RE[B+14]
US[GoGoD95]
;B[pe];W[qo];B[ep];W[ed];B[op];W[pq];B[oq];W[pr];B[kq];W[pc];B[cd];W[oe]
;B[of];W[od];B[nf];W[pf];B[pg];W[qf];B[qg];W[re];B[rf];W[qe];B[ee];W[fe]
;B[de];W[gd];B[ff];W[gf];B[gg];W[fg];B[ef];W[hf];B[hg];W[ig];B[fh];W[jf]
;B[co];W[en];B[fo];W[do];B[dp];W[cn];B[bo];W[gm];B[oh];W[dj];B[le];W[cc]
;B[ci];W[bd];B[cj];W[dd];B[ce];W[be];B[dk];W[hh];B[eg];W[gh];B[dc];W[cb]
;B[gn];W[hm];B[fm];W[el];B[fl];W[ek];B[fi];W[gj];B[gl];W[fj];B[dl];W[hl]
;B[em];W[hn];B[kc];W[ic];B[bc];W[bb];B[or];W[pn];B[qk];W[di];B[ch];W[jp]
;B[jq];W[hp];B[qm];W[pm];B[kg];W[kp];B[lp];W[lo];B[iq];W[hq];B[mp];W[er]
;B[dr];W[pj];B[pk];W[nj];B[ok];W[nh];B[nk];W[me];B[mf];W[ld];B[ke];W[kd]
;B[md];W[mc];B[ne];W[lc];B[rn];W[ro];B[pp];W[qp];B[rr];W[qq];B[ps];W[qs]
;B[os];W[qr];B[lj];W[eq];B[dq];W[kk];B[kj];W[lk];B[lm];W[jj];B[ji];W[jk]
;B[ii];W[nm];B[ip];W[io];B[go];W[ho];B[mo];W[kn];B[ln];W[ko];B[mk];W[nn]
;B[km];W[jn];B[sg];W[bg];B[se];W[rd];B[sd];W[sc];B[sf];W[rc];B[hr];W[gr]
;B[ir];W[aj];B[ah];W[bh];B[bi];W[ai];B[ak];W[ag];B[bj];W[je];B[nd];W[nc]
;B[fq];W[gq];B[fr];W[gs];B[fs];W[kf];B[lf];W[sn];B[sm];W[so];B[pl];W[rq]
;B[jm];W[im];B[cg];W[cf];B[dh];W[ah];B[bk];W[no];B[np];W[gp];B[fp];W[hs]
;B[is];W[jh];B[kh];W[fg];B[bf];W[af];B[df];W[bf];B[ei];W[ej];B[gg];W[ij]
;B[hi];W[gi];B[hj];W[hk];B[jl]
)

[Ian Butler]

Thank you, Bill. I'll be using both of these for my studying!

[Ian Butler]

A beautiful game just fell in my lap today. Was played about a month ago between Cho Chikun and Shibano Toramaru. Amazing game and great influence to be found and used!

[ozjwo]

Here are some pro game videos i think you may need:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCe7CiM ... HdqIF4ePsw

[Ian Butler]

Thanks for that link, too!

Anyway, I've already gone over a few games, still have many to go.
Today I played a game and I was building a lot of influence myself. So I decided to try and use the influence as I've already seen.

What I've noticed so far (could be wrong, though!) is that:
- pros tend to ignore their own influence. aka they play completely away.
- they keep their influence there and push their opponents towards it.
- they make points elsewhere on the board because of said pushing.

In the game I played, my influencal stones end up making 4 points on their own, but serve their function better in the middle game, I think.
So here's the game where I tried to put the teachings into practise. Let me know what you think of it!

[Ian Butler]

Thanks for that link, too!

Anyway, I've already gone over a few games, still have many to go.
Today I played a game and I was building a lot of influence myself. So I decided to try and use the influence as I've already seen.

What I've noticed so far (could be wrong, though!) is that:
- pros tend to ignore their own influence. aka they play completely away.
- they keep their influence there and push their opponents towards it.
- they make points elsewhere on the board because of said pushing.

In the game I played, my influencal stones end up making 4 points on their own, but serve their function better in the middle game, I think.
So here's the game where I tried to put the teachings into practise. Let me know what you think of it!