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 Post subject: Re: 62. Kie (1d) vs. FlamingMetroidzd (2k)
Post #41 Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:49 am 
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I could be mistaken, as FM is a fair amount stronger than me, but I'm not big on this last move. It seems fairly aji-keshi, as it's kind of helping white to build the moyo he most wants? Can anyone set me straight on this?


I am no fan of invading at M17. Basically what Harlequin said.


Sorry, I meant the followup. I understood why Harlequin said that the invasion was bad, but I wasn't big on the followup, either. Or is this just black's best local option?


About there, yes. All follow-ups will bump around making white stronger. I see no good followup.

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 Post subject: Re: 62. Kie (1d) vs. FlamingMetroidzd (2k)
Post #42 Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 8:24 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X B . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . O X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . O . . . O . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Sente move to decrease aji for the O17 stone. If w ignores I will wreck havoc on the other side of his wall. Namely by cutting at K17. After response I may claim territory once and for all with N15 which could possibly make L15 a good cutting point later--depending on what happens--if w tenukis.

You might be cringing at the fact that I'm letting w get this huge wall, but as I stated previously I am still relatively comfortable with the position. So far 8 of w stones will have been used to obtain these walls, where I've used 10 stones to claim both sides of this area and also to capturing a group. My stones are facing sides while his stones are facing each other. My left side cannot be reduced (the corner can be taken of course, but that is not reduction because it has not been claimed yet) and it would be harder to reduce the right side without giving me a comfortable position to reduce w's area equally. In addition, it will be difficult to invade my lower left side now.

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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O . O X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . 4 . 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 1 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 . 5 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X 6 . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . O . . . O . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


W runs out and b gains influence facing w's open-ended territory, making it easier to reduce while attacking the invasion. This is just general strategy idea and most definitely won't play out like so. :) Point is, w will become quite invested in making sure this stays territory.

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 Post subject: Re: 62. Kie (1d) vs. FlamingMetroidzd (2k)
Post #43 Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:30 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . O X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . W O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . O . . . O . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #44 Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:21 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . O X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , O X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . O O B . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . O . . . O . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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