36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)

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Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)

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[go]$$c
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$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X W X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



I need to make sure Black doesn't make two eyes there. If he does, my enclosed group will probably die. So I need to find a move that prevents Black from living locally.

There are two moves I am considering, a and b.

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[go]$$c
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X b X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . a . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


a limits the eyespace but lets Black make strong shape and play a lot of forcing moves.
b spoils black shape, but lets Black play b to expand his eye space.


Let's start with a.


Here's what might happen after I play :w2: .

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[go]$$Bc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . 6 . O X O O O 4 . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . 5 X 1 X 3 O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . 2 X 7 . X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't really see how to kill Black after this. Do you?

Here's another :w2: .

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[go]$$c
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . 8 . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . 4 . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . 3 X 1 X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O 7 . . . 2 . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O 6 5 X 9 . X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Black lives.


And another

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[go]$$c
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O 4 . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . 0 X 1 X 3 O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O 2 9 . . 8 . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O 6 5 X 7 . X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . c . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Black lives again after c.

Well, I don't know if Black is good at life and death. He might die anyway but I don't want to wager the whole game on this.


As for b, here's what might happen.

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[go]$$Bc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . 4 . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . 3 X O X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O 6 . 5 . 9 . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . 8 X 7 . X . 1 . 2 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If Black lives like this, my enclosed group will surely die.


This compromise might be a good option.
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[go]$$Bc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X O X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . 2 . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . 1 . 3 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Black steals points from me but at least I don't die.

Perhaps this is what'll happen, although I doubt it.
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[go]$$Bc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X O X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . 1 . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . 2 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



This was a tough decision to make. I like a better, but my analysis shows that Black lives after it, so I play b.
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Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)

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White seems quite oblivious to the fact that he can simply capture some cutting stones to connect his groups in several of his diagrams.
A good system naturally covers all corner cases without further effort.
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Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)

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if he is afraid of dying and let black go free..he doesnt deserve to give him 8 stones.
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[go]$$Bc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X O X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . 2 . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . 1 . 3 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


all he has to do is cutoff the lifeline then i dont think black can live.
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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . 1 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)

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[go]$$c
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X O X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . B . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I feel like I should get out of the lower side, but this move just doesn't get out of my head...
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Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)

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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X O X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X W . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If Black lives, I will make two eyes too.

For instance

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[go]$$c
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X a . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . 6 X O X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O 5 X O 8 . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O 4 3 X . 1 X . 2 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I might also play at a instead of :w8: . I think Black has a weakness there.


I wish I could kill it but my surrounding groups are too weak. Perhaps I should have played the d5-d3 sequence earlier.
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Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)

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walleye wrote:For instance

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[go]$$c
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X a . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . 6 X O X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O 5 X O 8 . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O 4 3 X . 1 X . 2 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I might also play at a instead of :w8: . I think Black has a weakness there.


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[go]$$c
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X a . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X O X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X 4 . O . X O . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . 3 X . 1 X . 2 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


You need to consider at least this :w4:. Your :w4: has no effect on the corner at all.
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Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X O X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . B X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Don't have much time to comment, I'm playing this to live here and because White still has to play to save the right side group.
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Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)

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[go]$$c
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X O X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . W X . X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


So I was thinking of playing at M2 but that would make life easy for Black. Moreover, I will have to take gote to make life for my own group. That is not good enough.

The move I decided to play is risky but it makes life difficult for Black. Black cannot make an eye at H2.

I have a feeling it will turn into a capturing race. His corner will probably suffer too.

Finally, Black might make a mistake in the center after I play at a. If he falters there, things will be easy for me.

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X a . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X O X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . W X . X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)

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[go]$$c
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X O X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O . B . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
This should help me get another eye, while making his harder to make.
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[go]$$c
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X O X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O . X W . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I first thought of playing :w1:
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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . 4 O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X O X . O 6 O 5 X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O . X 2 . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . X X . 1 3 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

but the cut worried me a little.

I can of course prevent the cut this way
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X O X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O . X 2 3 O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . X X . 1 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

but my shape here becomes really awful.

I could have played like this
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X O X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O . X . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . X X . 2 . 1 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

which is what could have happened if Black had played at :b2: directly.

But I think my move in the game is better.
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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X O X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O 5 X 1 . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . X X . 2 3 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This is what may happen next. Black's lacking two eyes.


I am really curious to find out what Phelan was thinking about this whole situation. He is playing as if he knows he can make two eyes or win the capturing race.
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