$$Wcm141 Has captured: B - 5, W - 5 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . X X . . . . X . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O X . X O . O X O O . O O X . | $$ | . O . . . O X X X . X X X O O O X . . | $$ | . . . X . . O X . X O . X O X X X . . | $$ | X O O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . O . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O X . . . . , X O . . . , . . . | $$ | X X X O . . . . . X 3 . O . . . . . . | $$ | O O O O O . . . . . X O O X . . . . . | $$ | X X X O . . O . . . O X X X O O O . . | $$ | . O X X . X O . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | O . O X . X X O . . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O X O O X . O , O X . . . X . . . | $$ | O X O X . X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm141 Has captured: B - 5, W - 5 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . X X . . . . X . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O X . X O . O X O O . O O X . | $$ | . O . . . O X X X . X X X O O O X . . | $$ | . . . X . . O X . X O . X O X X X . . | $$ | X O O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . O . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O X . . . . , X O . . . , . . . | $$ | X X X O . . . . . X 3 . O . . . . . . | $$ | O O O O O . . . . . X O O X . . . . . | $$ | X X X O . . O . . . O X X X O O O . . | $$ | . O X X . X O . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | O . O X . X X O . . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O X O O X . O , O X . . . X . . . | $$ | O X O X . X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown" Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
$$Wcm141 Has captured: B - 5, W - 5 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . X X . . . . X . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O X . X O . O X O O . O O X . | $$ | . O . . . O X X X . X X X O O O X . . | $$ | . . . X . . O X . X O . X O X X X . . | $$ | X O O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . O . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O X . . . . , X O . . . , . . . | $$ | X X X O . . . . . X O . O . . . . . . | $$ | O O O O O . . . . . X O O X . . . . . | $$ | X X X O . . O . . . O X X X O O O . . | $$ | . O X X . X O . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | O . O X . X X O . . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . 4 O X O O X . O , O X . . . X . . . | $$ | O X O X . X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm141 Has captured: B - 5, W - 5 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . X X . . . . X . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O X . X O . O X O O . O O X . | $$ | . O . . . O X X X . X X X O O O X . . | $$ | . . . X . . O X . X O . X O X X X . . | $$ | X O O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . O . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O X . . . . , X O . . . , . . . | $$ | X X X O . . . . . X O . O . . . . . . | $$ | O O O O O . . . . . X O O X . . . . . | $$ | X X X O . . O . . . O X X X O O O . . | $$ | . O X X . X O . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | O . O X . X X O . . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . 4 O X O O X . O , O X . . . X . . . | $$ | O X O X . X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
$$Wcm141 Has captured: B - 6, W - 5 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . X X . . . . X . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O X . X O . O X O O . O O X . | $$ | . O . . . O X X X . X X X O O O X . . | $$ | . . . X . . O X . X O . X O X X X . . | $$ | X O O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . O . . . . . . X . . . . . 7 . . | $$ | . . X O X . . . . , X O . . . , . . . | $$ | X X X O . . . . . X . 6 O . . . . . . | $$ | O O O O O . . . . . X O O X . . . . . | $$ | X X X O . . O . . . O X X X O O O . . | $$ | . O X X . X O . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | O 5 O X . X X O . . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . 4 O X O O X . O , O X . . . X . . . | $$ | O X O X . X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm141 Has captured: B - 6, W - 5 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . X X . . . . X . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O X . X O . O X O O . O O X . | $$ | . O . . . O X X X . X X X O O O X . . | $$ | . . . X . . O X . X O . X O X X X . . | $$ | X O O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . O . . . . . . X . . . . . 7 . . | $$ | . . X O X . . . . , X O . . . , . . . | $$ | X X X O . . . . . X . 6 O . . . . . . | $$ | O O O O O . . . . . X O O X . . . . . | $$ | X X X O . . O . . . O X X X O O O . . | $$ | . O X X . X O . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | O 5 O X . X X O . . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . 4 O X O O X . O , O X . . . X . . . | $$ | O X O X . X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown" Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
Instead of making a threat that last time, why didn't Kirby just connect?
$$Wcm141 Has captured: B - 5, W - 5 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . X X . . . . X . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O X . X O . O X O O . O O X . | $$ | . O . . . O X X X . X X X O O O X . . | $$ | . . . X . . O X . X O . X O X X X . . | $$ | X O O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . O . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O X . . . . , X O . . . , . . . | $$ | X X X O . . . . . X O . O . 6 . . . . | $$ | O O O O O . . . . 4 X O O X . . . . . | $$ | X X X O . . O . . . O X X X O O O . . | $$ | . O X X . X O . . . . . . 5XX X X . . | $$ | O . O X . X X O . . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O X O O X . O , O X . . . X . . . | $$ | O X O X . X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm141 Has captured: B - 5, W - 5 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . X X . . . . X . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O X . X O . O X O O . O O X . | $$ | . O . . . O X X X . X X X O O O X . . | $$ | . . . X . . O X . X O . X O X X X . . | $$ | X O O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . O . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O X . . . . , X O . . . , . . . | $$ | X X X O . . . . . X O . O . 6 . . . . | $$ | O O O O O . . . . 4 X O O X . . . . . | $$ | X X X O . . O . . . O X X X O O O . . | $$ | . O X X . X O . . . . . . 5XX X X . . | $$ | O . O X . X X O . . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O X O O X . O , O X . . . X . . . | $$ | O X O X . X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
45 and 46 seem to be miai, so It doesn't really seem like white can cause that much trouble.
"There are no limits. There are plateaus, but you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. If it kills you, it kills you. A man must constantly exceed his level." -- Bruce Lee
$$Wcm141 Has captured: B - 6, W - 5 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . X X . . . . X . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O X . X O . O X O O . O O X . | $$ | . O . . . O X X X . X X X O O O X . . | $$ | . . . X . . O X . X O . X O X X X . . | $$ | X O O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . O . . . . . . X . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X O X . . . . , X O . . . , . . . | $$ | X X X O . . . . . X . X O . . . 8 . . | $$ | O O O O O . . . . . X O O X . . . . . | $$ | X X X O . . O . . . O X X X O O O . . | $$ | . O X X . X O . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | O O O X . X X O . . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . X O X O O X . O , O X . . . X . . . | $$ | O X O X . X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm141 Has captured: B - 6, W - 5 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . X X . . . . X . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O X . X O . O X O O . O O X . | $$ | . O . . . O X X X . X X X O O O X . . | $$ | . . . X . . O X . X O . X O X X X . . | $$ | X O O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . O . . . . . . X . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X O X . . . . , X O . . . , . . . | $$ | X X X O . . . . . X . X O . . . 8 . . | $$ | O O O O O . . . . . X O O X . . . . . | $$ | X X X O . . O . . . O X X X O O O . . | $$ | . O X X . X O . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | O O O X . X X O . . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . X O X O O X . O , O X . . . X . . . | $$ | O X O X . X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
$$Wcm141 Has captured: B - 6, W - 6 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . X X . . . . X . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O X . X O . O X O O . O O X . | $$ | . O . . . O X X X . X X X O O O X . . | $$ | . . . X . . O X . X O . X O X X X . . | $$ | X O O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . O . . . . . . X . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X O X . . . . , X O . . . , . . . | $$ | X X X O . . . . . X 9 . O . . . X . . | $$ | O O O O O . . . . . X O O X . . . . . | $$ | X X X O . . O . . . O X X X O O O . . | $$ | . O X X . X O . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | O O O X . X X O . . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . X O X O O X . O , O X . . . X . . . | $$ | O X O X . X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm141 Has captured: B - 6, W - 6 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . X X . . . . X . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O X . X O . O X O O . O O X . | $$ | . O . . . O X X X . X X X O O O X . . | $$ | . . . X . . O X . X O . X O X X X . . | $$ | X O O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . O . . . . . . X . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X O X . . . . , X O . . . , . . . | $$ | X X X O . . . . . X 9 . O . . . X . . | $$ | O O O O O . . . . . X O O X . . . . . | $$ | X X X O . . O . . . O X X X O O O . . | $$ | . O X X . X O . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | O O O X . X X O . . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . X O X O O X . O , O X . . . X . . . | $$ | O X O X . X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X X X O O O . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
wow.. very intresting game.. i might not be able to play another mover for one month.(going on a mission for a month)
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown" Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
$$Wcm141 Has captured: B - 6, W - 6 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . X X . . . . X . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O X . X O . O X O O . O O X . | $$ | . O . . . O X X X . X X X O O O X . . | $$ | . . . X . . O X . X O . X O X X X . . | $$ | X O O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . O . . . . . . X . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X O X . . . . , X O . . . , . . . | $$ | X X X O . . . . . X O . O . . . X . . | $$ | O O O O O . . . . . X O O X . . . . . | $$ | X X X O . . O . . . O X X X O O O . . | $$ | . O X X . X O . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | O O O X . X X O . . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . X O X O O X . O , O X . . . X . . . | $$ | O X O X . X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | 0 O X X X O O O . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm141 Has captured: B - 6, W - 6 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . X X . . . . X . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O X . X O . O X O O . O O X . | $$ | . O . . . O X X X . X X X O O O X . . | $$ | . . . X . . O X . X O . X O X X X . . | $$ | X O O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . O . . . . . . X . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X O X . . . . , X O . . . , . . . | $$ | X X X O . . . . . X O . O . . . X . . | $$ | O O O O O . . . . . X O O X . . . . . | $$ | X X X O . . O . . . O X X X O O O . . | $$ | . O X X . X O . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | O O O X . X X O . . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . X O X O O X . O , O X . . . X . . . | $$ | O X O X . X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | 0 O X X X O O O . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
$$Wcm141 Has captured: B - 6, W - 6 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . X X . . . . X . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O X . X O . O X O O . O O X . | $$ | . O . . . O X X X . X X X O O O X . . | $$ | . . . X . . O X . X O . X O X X X . . | $$ | X O O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . O . . . . . . X . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X O X . . . . , X O . . . , . . . | $$ | X X X O . . . . . X O . O . . . X . . | $$ | O O O O O . . . . . X O O X . . . . . | $$ | X X X O . . O . . . O X X X O O O . . | $$ | . O X X . X O a . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | O O O X . X X O . . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . X O X O O X . O , O X . . . X . . . | $$ | O X O X . X . . b . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | 0 O X X X O O O . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm141 Has captured: B - 6, W - 6 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . X X . . . . X . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O X . X O . O X O O . O O X . | $$ | . O . . . O X X X . X X X O O O X . . | $$ | . . . X . . O X . X O . X O X X X . . | $$ | X O O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . O . . . . . . X . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X O X . . . . , X O . . . , . . . | $$ | X X X O . . . . . X O . O . . . X . . | $$ | O O O O O . . . . . X O O X . . . . . | $$ | X X X O . . O . . . O X X X O O O . . | $$ | . O X X . X O a . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | O O O X . X X O . . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . X O X O O X . O , O X . . . X . . . | $$ | O X O X . X . . b . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | 0 O X X X O O O . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Anyone else feels there are multiple benefits for a here? I do not feel like I'm reading everything too well. There's also b to look into. So my question is, as a threat, a or b first?
I personally do not know which is better, but I have a nagging feeling I'm looking at things too straightforward. I think this is a great weakness point for bottom, and might awaken more aji there. I'm leaning towards b. Requesting a different viewpoint on this
I feel neither a nor b seem to be big enough as a threat if white captures.
Edit: gah, that's embarrassing - forgot black group is dead XD Um... can white ignore a?
Yea, I'm not sure about the timing. I like the aji a lot, and I think there's a lot to work with especially if that black group becomes alive. That's a big if though. The possibilities are there, but I do not read well enough to see how far these threats go(I'm also a bit lazy). I especially enjoy the threats because they definitely make white's group(s) overall weaker. At this moment, magicwand will most likely take the chance, if Kirby decided to play these moves. It seems difficult to pull off, and I think magicwand will bank on Kirby misreading something. It happens a lot in handicap games in general. So I'd say it might become a bit bigger in a few more threats. Maybe after black plays k8.
i will be back home on nov 8th till then i am busy on mission.
$$Wcm151 Has captured: B - 7, W - 8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . X X . . . . X . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O X . X O . O X O O . O O X . | $$ | . O . . . O X X X . X X X O O O X . . | $$ | . . . X . . O X . X O . X O X X X . . | $$ | X O O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . O . . . . . . X . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X O X . . . . , X O . . . , . . . | $$ | X X X O . . . . . X . 2 O . . 3 X . . | $$ | O O O O O . . . . . X O O X . . . . . | $$ | X X X O . . O . . . O X X X O O O . . | $$ | . O X X . X O . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | O O O X . X X O . . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | 1 . O X O O X . O , O X . . . X . . . | $$ | O . O X . X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | O O X X X O O O . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm151 Has captured: B - 7, W - 8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . X X . . . . X . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . O X . X O . O X O O . O O X . | $$ | . O . . . O X X X . X X X O O O X . . | $$ | . . . X . . O X . X O . X O X X X . . | $$ | X O O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . O . . . . . . X . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X O X . . . . , X O . . . , . . . | $$ | X X X O . . . . . X . 2 O . . 3 X . . | $$ | O O O O O . . . . . X O O X . . . . . | $$ | X X X O . . O . . . O X X X O O O . . | $$ | . O X X . X O . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | O O O X . X X O . . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | 1 . O X O O X . O , O X . . . X . . . | $$ | O . O X . X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | O O X X X O O O . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown" Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
I admired kirby's technical ability in his previous game. It seems in the last game he neglected the proverb to connect handicap stones into the center. In fact his center group is not connected to any of his handicap stones. I am not strong enough to judge but I guess this is the reason for his defeat. Anyway I enjoyed watching this game very much but it gave me bad feelings from the beginning as I am always on the weaker player's side.
very intresting game.. i might not be able to play another mover for one month.(going on a mission for a month)
