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Offline Andd
 Post subject: Re: 85: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Andd (3K)
Post #41 Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:43 am 
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My line of thinking for the peep/elephant step was completely off. Best to just aim for small life on top right then play a asap.
Though a may be an overplay.
B would take the corner but allow white to develop too nicely on the bottom. I have some thinking to do.
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[go]$$Bcm21
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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 85: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Andd (3K)
Post #42 Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:57 am 
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[go]$$Bcm21
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$$ | . . . . X X O O . . . . . O . . 8 . . |
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just a probe.. if he answer my peep then it is a plus for me... if not i will think about it then.

edit:
his move 27 was very defensive.
i would never jump in 3-3 point at this stage so i think his move 27 is wrong..
i would have played as below. it is not smooth but black has no choice but to take this path.
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[go]$$Bcm27
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Bill Spight
 Post subject: Re: 85: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Andd (3K)
Post #43 Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:06 am 
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Question for Magicwand:

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[go]$$Bcm21
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


What do you think of this move for :w26: ? Thanks. :)

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 85: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Andd (3K)
Post #44 Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:59 am 
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to: Bill Spight
yes it is a very good move. may be i should have play your move.

now what do you think of my move?
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[go]$$Wcm30
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$$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i think either way it doesnt make much difference.
my variation has its own merit also.

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Offline Bill Spight
 Post subject: Re: 85: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Andd (3K)
Post #45 Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:39 am 
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Magicwand wrote:
to: Bill Spight
yes it is a very good move. may be i should have play your move.

now what do you think of my move?
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[go]$$Wcm30
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$$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
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$$ | . . . . X X O O . . . . . O . X O . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i think either way it doesnt make much difference.
my variation has its own merit also.


For now, my reply is hidden to both players. :)

Oh, very good, of course. :)

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Offline Andd
 Post subject: Re: 85: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Andd (3K)
Post #46 Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:46 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm21
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$$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . X . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X O O . . . . . O . 9 O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X . . O . X . . . X . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 85: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Andd (3K)
Post #47 Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:58 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm21
$$ ---------------------------------------
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$$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . X . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X O O . . . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X . . O . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 0 . . . . O . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


i want him to try to live on top with two eyes only with gote.

if my right side become little stronger then i can attack with 'a' and it might capture his group.

'b' on top is a vital point of attack i am looking at now.
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[go]$$Bcm21
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . b . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . X . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X O O . . . . . O . X O a . |
$$ | . . . X . O X . . O . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 0 . . . . O . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Andd
 Post subject: Re: 85: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Andd (3K)
Post #48 Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:07 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm31
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$$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . X . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X O O . . . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X . . O . X . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . O . , X . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Ok not my proudest move but here's why. I figure it will take him at least one more move to kill the top middle group, and I doubt I'd be able to make it live, even if I did, he would get very thick in the process, and I'd get only a few points (even though he gets alot for killing i think it'd barely overcome the komi. So I'll take a big point with sente, he won't want to kill in gote.
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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 85: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Andd (3K)
Post #49 Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:25 am 
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[go]$$Bcm31
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$$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . X . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X O O . . . . . O . X O . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

a and b miai sounds good.
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[go]$$Bcm31
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . b . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
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Post #51 Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:25 pm 
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Offline Joaz Banbeck
 Post subject: Re: 85: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Andd (3K)
Post #52 Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:39 pm 
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It seems that MW is getting greedy. True, it may trouble the upper group, but I doubt that it kills against best defense. Whereas the honte move at R6 was huge and sente.

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Post #53 Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:35 pm 
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Joaz Banbeck wrote:
It seems that MW is getting greedy. True, it may trouble the upper group, but I doubt that it kills against best defense. Whereas the honte move at R6 was huge and sente.

It is my very limited understanding that when you are playing against big handicap/reverse komi, you shouldn't play against best defense

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Post #54 Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:34 pm 
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Post #55 Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:43 pm 
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Post #56 Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:02 pm 
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Offline Bill Spight
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Post #57 Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:05 pm 
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Joaz Banbeck wrote:
It seems that MW is getting greedy. True, it may trouble the upper group, but I doubt that it kills against best defense. Whereas the honte move at R6 was huge and sente.


Funny. I was thinking that :w34: was too small, because you can't expect best play from Black. Black might have trouble living, anyway. ;)


Edit: Note #9 unhidden. :)

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Post #58 Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:08 pm 
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exactly what i wanted...but somehow i can not find good picture :)
i hope he doesnt tenuki.

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Post #59 Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:02 am 
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Offline Magicwand
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Post #60 Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:13 am 
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only move for me.
my objective is getting sente and invade a.
if he make mistake i will launch "b".
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