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by Redundant Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:19 pm
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by emerus Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:57 am
$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
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Sorry for the delay.
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by Redundant Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:50 pm
$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
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by Loons Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:43 pm
$$Bcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
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I'm vaguely curious about this. I can't answer it readily as black, but I've only given it a cursory examination. I guess T19 isn't really urgent so black will play on the left anyway.
Edit: Relatedly, as black I would probably play here
$$Bcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
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by hyperpape Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:45 am
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by emerus Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:16 am
$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
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Sorry, I plan on posting more detailed explanations eventually. I've just been using my allotted go time with more tsumego and study.
This move is urgent and I mean super urgent!
Here is when I should have helped this group!
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This is black stone is sente vs whites group.
I was a bit infatuated with Lee Seedol's "ladder game" when I played the other variation and I thought that I might know it better than my opponent. White's j15 caught me completely by suprised.
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by Redundant Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:16 am
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by emerus Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:04 pm
$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
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I had been reading this out without blacks last move and I was going to play this way:
$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
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I would like to have avoiding being pushed low like this. But with d11 in place, it's not a problem so we'll play the more solid connection.
$$cm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
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by Redundant Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:27 pm
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by emerus Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:54 pm
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by Redundant Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:57 pm
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by emerus Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:40 pm
$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
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You can offer triggers
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by Redundant Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:48 pm
EDIT: Accidental double post.
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by Redundant Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:48 pm
$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
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I like to leave your choices open
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by Loons Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:20 pm
To Redundant, and also Emerus IF redundant says it's ok.
To observers:
I'm missing some variations here, but there aren't any where I don't get something good out of this cut.