90: CSamurai (5k) vs Chew (3k)

Numsgil · **#61**

Magicwand wrote:

CSamurai · **#62**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm41 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0.5 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . 1 . . X . . . . . X . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X O X X . O . . O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I thought about a few alternatives to this.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm40 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0.5 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X O X X . 1 . . O 2 . . . X . . . | $$ | . O . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Since white extended towards the left first, I could take advantage of my strength on this side to build more territory. The problem is, the resulting fight on the left is not favourable to me.

Alternately,

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm40 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0.5 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X O X X . 1 . . O . . 3 . X . . . | $$ | . O . O O 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This move threatens to undercut white's group, and turns this into a rather more all or nothing battle than I'd like, especially when 42 likely establishes a comfortable base for white, and white can treat 40 lightly.

I'm most comfortable letting white have what it wants for now, reducing later, and profiting by leaning on the groups.

Magicwand · **#63**

Numsgil wrote:

Magicwand wrote:

Chew Terr · **#64**

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CSamurai · **#65**

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Chew Terr · **#66**

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Magicwand · **#67**

for ob:

i will give you my input on this board position:
i evaluate everything by comparing two diag and dicide which is better.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm41 diag 1. this is an actual game. $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . 4 . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . X . . X . . X . . X . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X O X X . O . . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . O . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm41 diag 2. this is better than actual game $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . X O . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . X . . X . . X . . X . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X O X X . O . . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . O . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i feel that diag 1 actual game is worse than diag 2.
when you are out numbered you should play solid connection.
if you thin yourself because his moyo look big you are asking for more trouble.
on contriary you should shrink your self even more.

i am not saying second diag is a good move
my point is that his move is wrong.

example of correct move:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm41 diag 3. a,b,c are example of correct move $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . a . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . b . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . c . . | $$ | . . O X . . . X . . X . . X . . X . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X O X X . O . . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . O . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

diag 4 below is a probe asking him a or b.
if a then you have aji on the side to make a life.
if b then you have guanantee endgame.
depends on how he answer you will make your plan.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm41 diag 4 point a example $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . a . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . b 4 . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . X . . X . . X . . X . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X O X X . O . . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . O . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

below is one of the points that you will not be attacked severly.
you are limiting his growth. (white is ahead in my opinion)

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm41 diag 5 point b example $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . X . . X . . X . . X . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X O X X . O . . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . O . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

below is example c where white is probing asking him a or b.
if he play a then you have aji that might give you life on the side or corner.
if he play b then you can tenuki and use 'c' for possible life on the side.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm41 diag 6 point c example $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . a 4 . . | $$ | . . O X . . . X . . X . . X . b X c . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X O X X . O . . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . O . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i am gaving you one of the 10 chinese go saying.
rough translation: if you are out numbered you should cover your weakness.

and 2 example of probe (or invasion)
and 1 example of limiting opponent's moyo.

hope it helps

CSamurai · **#68**

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Chew Terr · **#69**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm41 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0.5 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . | $$ | . . O X . . . X . . X . . X . . X . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X O X X . O . . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . O . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

topazg · **#70**

Solomon · **#71**

CSamurai · **#72**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm41 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0.5 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . O X . . . X . . X . . X . 7 X . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X O X X . O . . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . O . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Another very agressive move from white. I believe this is overplay, and as such, I'm going to play calmly, and see what white can do. I don't see a good amount of space here for white. I could have played something more stern..

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm47 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0.5 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . 6 2 . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . 7 1 W . . | $$ | . . O X . . . X . . X . . X . 4 X . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . . . . , 5 . . | $$ | . X X O X X . O . . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . O . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

A possible continuation from the hane on top.

This doesn't hurt me much either, but, notice, I strengthen white's stone a little by forcing the 48 to be an extension. I really don't want to give white that sort of chance here.

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Notice, white doesn't have room to live here. Learning to recognize that fact is important in learning to play with influence. White has to fight strongly to make small life, and I have not yet strengthened any of their stones, making this a much better line, in my opinion. White has room for only 1 eye in this formation.

The other formation is better in that white gets no eyespace, but it encourages white out into the center, where this allows white to become entrapped easily.

Maybe I'm being too soft on white, but this way feels good to me.

Chew Terr · **#73**

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Ah hem. Infestors? In <MY> natural? It's more likely than you think!

Mnemonic · **#74**

@ Chew Terr

Chew Terr · **#75**

Mnem:

CSamurai · **#76**

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I'll admit, I wasn't expecting this move. With this move, you make what was a desperate fight into an all or nothing fight. Which, you know, I can respect, but it does make me wonder what you're planning here, since nothing I read from this point is very good.

I'd diagram, but.. I can only guess your next move at this point. You're playing a bit more wildly than I think you need to. With the reduction along the bottom, you're not as behind as it might appear, and playing this forcefully seems dangerous. But then, maybe I'm just not very good at properly using influence. Had a game today against a kgs 4k where they played completely unreasonably and beat the snot out of me by just being wildly agressive, so maybe this is good for you.

Chew Terr · **#77**

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Mostly, I figure it's the same as a picnic ko: it's very sente, and as long as I drop it before it spills into other areas, if I fail, I won't lose anything that I had a shot at, anyways. Mostly just trying to poke a little aji and see how you respond before I play somewhere else.

CSamurai · **#78**

Some thoughts.

A couple of thoughts occur to me, either of which is fine. I just feel like this one maintains the most pressure.

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This way seems fine for me. Some aji left from white.

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This is the other thought, and, while solid, it lacks any real force to push back on white.

I can play either, but I'm not sure which result I like best at this point. Going to stew on it for a while.

topazg · **#79**

CSamurai · **#80**

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Sorry for the long delay in my play, I had a bout with a flu for most of my weekend, then spent a couple days recovering errands wise.

As for anyone who read my thoughts..

OK, so, I know last time we talked I was leaning towards the other side of this play..

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But I decided that white 54 was far too good for white.

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This is a far safer way to play for me. White lacks solid strength, eyespace, and black has a large tactical advantage in this fight. We're going to continue trying to play calmly and not make any mistakes that give white more advantage than deserved.

90: CSamurai (5k) vs Chew (3k)

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