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Offline zinger
 Post subject: Re: 33. Magicwand v. zinger
Post #21 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 5:13 am 
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OK here goes. I think he stands more to lose in this ko than I do. He might get a strong counter-threat in the top right though. I sure don't know yet, but this mess is exactly what I was aiming for!

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 33. Magicwand v. zinger
Post #22 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 5:34 am 
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coming in already??? wow..
i guess he felt that he will be in better shape after this ko.
i am not sure about that.. i think he should have made the threat bigger.
but what do i know..

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 Post subject: Re: 33. Magicwand v. zinger
Post #23 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 5:42 am 
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I think we both know where this is going:

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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This should be interesting ..

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 33. Magicwand v. zinger
Post #24 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 5:44 am 
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you should've went one more move :)
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Post #25 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 5:46 am 
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So the only question is the result. I'm not really convinced this is good for me.

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Post #26 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 5:49 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i am totally satisfied with this. my 2 stone on top was light and he can never kill all aji. and i have sente.

added comment:
simple calculation:
he barely caputred my 2 stones and how many stone did i capture???
plus alpha is on my side. i have gotten thicker and his group got weaker.

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Post #27 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 6:08 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Meh, this isn't so great, I should have held the ko in reserve :sad:

White's strength is really working with the star point stone, and he has sente. I may have already lost.

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Post #28 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 6:55 am 
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Should be okay for the players as the position is settled:

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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


What about this, with a and b as miai?
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Post #29 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:03 am 
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To prokofiev:

This would worry me as Black:

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$$ | . . . O . 7 O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Post #30 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:05 am 
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prokofiev wrote:
Should be okay for the players as the position is settled:

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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


What about this, with a and b as miai?


i would connect b and fight. it doesnt look good for black to fight this way. it my opinion.

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Post #31 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:08 am 
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topazg wrote:
To prokofiev:

This would worry me as Black:

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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

your variation doesnt look good for white. i would never play that.

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Post #32 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:09 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: 33. Magicwand v. zinger
Post #33 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:15 am 
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Magicwand wrote:
your variation doesnt look good for white. i would never play that.


Ok, I'm not that happy with it either, but it would make me uncomfortable - White is hardly happier with:

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 33. Magicwand v. zinger
Post #34 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:19 am 
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topazg wrote:
Magicwand wrote:
your variation doesnt look good for white. i would never play that.


Ok, I'm not that happy with it either, but it would make me uncomfortable - White is hardly happier with:

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . 5 O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 7 X 2 1 3 X . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X 4 6 O X . 8 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
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but i dont mind fighting this way
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Post #35 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:24 am 
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Okay for players to see.
Zinger's idea is very interesting. An example can be found on SL at http://senseis.xmp.net/?KoPreparation
However, my feeling is that Zinger probably should have prepared a larger ko threat. This ko threat seemed a bit on the small side.

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Post #36 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:29 am 
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unkx80 wrote:
Okay for players to see.
Zinger's idea is very interesting. An example can be found on SL at http://senseis.xmp.net/?KoPreparation
However, my feeling is that Zinger probably should have prepared a larger ko threat. This ko threat seemed a bit on the small side.


Looking at the board now, I agree. But I think it's still a game.

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Post #37 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:34 am 
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I am happy about this. I was worried about other ways white might use the aji. For example, descending would give white an atari on top or a relationship with the 3-3 point. Now I don't need to worry about that. It feels like white is using the aji too soon, losing future options.

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Offline Magicwand
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Post #38 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:35 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #39 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 8:03 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I was wondering if white would take the time to play there. Anyway I don't think I can afford to take gote to connect, even though the difference in thickness is large. White 1 would be too good. Besides, later I might want to cut at S12 in ko instead of connecting.

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Post #40 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 8:29 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Although Magicwand is a better fighter than I, I have to question this play. It is as though Black has already replied to :w1: with :bc:. Maybe it is not the best reply, but it still reduces the effect of :w1:.

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