New app for iPad

For discussing go computing, software announcements, etc.
User avatar
Actorios
Lives with ko
Posts: 130
Joined: Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:03 pm
Rank: KGS 3k
GD Posts: 0
KGS: Actorios
Universal go server handle: Actorios
Has thanked: 28 times
Been thanked: 8 times

New app for iPad

Post by Actorios »

Brugo Joseki has just been released. It's basically an iPad version of the website www.brugo.be
Looks like a very nice complement to the main apps I use for go.
User avatar
kirkmc
Lives in sente
Posts: 1072
Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:51 am
Rank: 5K KGS
GD Posts: 1165
KGS: Dogen
Location: Stratford-upon-Avon, England
Has thanked: 32 times
Been thanked: 70 times
Contact:

Re: New app for iPad

Post by kirkmc »

I just took a quick glance at it. Aside from the Windows-like interface, it doesn't offer anything the website doesn't have, and the website is easy enough to navigate on an iPad...
My blog about Macs and more: Kirkville
User avatar
oren
Oza
Posts: 2777
Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:54 pm
GD Posts: 0
KGS: oren
Tygem: oren740, orenl
IGS: oren
Wbaduk: oren
Location: Seattle, WA
Has thanked: 251 times
Been thanked: 549 times

Re: New app for iPad

Post by oren »

Actorios wrote:Brugo Joseki has just been released. It's basically an iPad version of the website http://www.brugo.be
Looks like a very nice complement to the main apps I use for go.


Can you use it offline?
User avatar
Actorios
Lives with ko
Posts: 130
Joined: Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:03 pm
Rank: KGS 3k
GD Posts: 0
KGS: Actorios
Universal go server handle: Actorios
Has thanked: 28 times
Been thanked: 8 times

Re: New app for iPad

Post by Actorios »

Indeed. There is a page on the application functionalities on www.Brugo.be.
Mivo
Lives in gote
Posts: 335
Joined: Tue May 11, 2010 2:03 pm
GD Posts: 351
Location: Germany
Has thanked: 41 times
Been thanked: 97 times

Re: New app for iPad

Post by Mivo »

€4.99 is too costly for what it does (the web site works well in Safari), by AppStore standards. I guess I've become stingy. :)
lobotommy
Lives in gote
Posts: 408
Joined: Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:01 am
Rank: EGF 3kyu
GD Posts: 0
Universal go server handle: tommyray (1d/2d)
Location: Poland, Gliwice
Has thanked: 127 times
Been thanked: 94 times

Re: New app for iPad

Post by lobotommy »

Most important thing for me is this app have same view like in "Occurs in following sequences" (screenshot below) on the website? This feature is worth paying for. But once again - I'm always online so... Is this app a good one? Anyone tried it?

On the other hand - navigating through a web version of brugo is a real pain, even on a desktop, any app is better than these tiny letters/numbers you need to click/touch to navigate.

5$ bucks is maybe a little too much for such app but hey - you will use this app for the next years, it is not just a game which you complete and delete from your iPad in a week or two.

So, there are pros and cons - I think I will buy it. Maybe not now, but definitely I will.
Attachments
329031419.466809.jpg
329031419.466809.jpg (186.44 KiB) Viewed 10082 times
Tsumego/Tesuji apps for iPad, iPhone & Android devices:http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewto ... =18&t=7511
BramGo
Dies in gote
Posts: 24
Joined: Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:39 am
Rank: 1d
GD Posts: 68
KGS: spook
Been thanked: 5 times

Re: New app for iPad

Post by BramGo »

I just made an "official" announcement.
But I see a lot of people already found it on their own. :tmbup:

For full details:
http://www.brugo.be/ipad/ipad.htm

Why an ipad version?It's available OFFLINE(!) That's the biggest advantage.
So you can take brugo with you to your local go club without needing 3G,wifi,...

Personally I like the sliding-through-history and multi-tab ("Add Goban") options a lot.
The user interface is more straight forward and prettier.

About the price:
I must admit the price is a little higher than was meant at first.
The main reason: 50% of that price tag goes entirely to apple.
On top of that, let's be honest ... we have a very small community.
And there's an apple developer license of 100USD/year.

What happens with the money:
Brugo has been online for about 4 years now. (Let's not talk about hours of development costs)
Just the webhosting costs, domain names, apple licenses, third party components: about 400EUR.
Besides that there's been some failed projects which included very expensive hardware (+800 EUR). :scratch:

Several years ago Gobase was put in a similar position. ( :bow: )
They tried donations. After that, they introduced "a registration fee".
But in the end they had to add banners after all. Imho it kind of damaged the gobase position.

On many occasions I've been offered to add banners for casino's and other crap. :roll:
This kind of advertisement pays REALLY good. But I've always rejected these proposals.
I think it's better to make revenues in a positive way, with a new powerful product while continuing the existing functions.
ZBaduk Online Go AI: https://www.zbaduk.com
Joseki Dictionary: http://www.brugo.be (deprecated)
BramGo
Dies in gote
Posts: 24
Joined: Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:39 am
Rank: 1d
GD Posts: 68
KGS: spook
Been thanked: 5 times

Re: New app for iPad

Post by BramGo »

oren wrote:Can you use it offline?

YES :)
ZBaduk Online Go AI: https://www.zbaduk.com
Joseki Dictionary: http://www.brugo.be (deprecated)
User avatar
kirkmc
Lives in sente
Posts: 1072
Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:51 am
Rank: 5K KGS
GD Posts: 1165
KGS: Dogen
Location: Stratford-upon-Avon, England
Has thanked: 32 times
Been thanked: 70 times
Contact:

Re: New app for iPad

Post by kirkmc »

BramGo wrote:About the price:
The main reason: 50% of that price tag goes entirely to apple.


All due respect, it's only 30%. I don't see why you need to exaggerate.
My blog about Macs and more: Kirkville
BramGo
Dies in gote
Posts: 24
Joined: Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:39 am
Rank: 1d
GD Posts: 68
KGS: spook
Been thanked: 5 times

Re: New app for iPad

Post by BramGo »

kirkmc wrote:
BramGo wrote:About the price:
The main reason: 50% of that price tag goes entirely to apple.

All due respect, it's only 30%. I don't see why you need to exaggerate.


*deep sigh*
Looks like I'm a bit off, it's actually 40%. (see screenshot below)
(But you're exaggerating just as much in the other direction.)
It also slightly depends from country to country.
If downloaded from the US, it makes a bit less.

But in essence, you're absolutely right. It's extremely expensive.
You better visit your bank for a loan. Or you can sell your kidneys.
Attachments
Itunes connect
Itunes connect
2011-06-10_160438.png (8.92 KiB) Viewed 9973 times
ZBaduk Online Go AI: https://www.zbaduk.com
Joseki Dictionary: http://www.brugo.be (deprecated)
hyperpape
Tengen
Posts: 4382
Joined: Thu May 06, 2010 3:24 pm
Rank: AGA 3k
GD Posts: 65
OGS: Hyperpape 4k
Location: Caldas da Rainha, Portugal
Has thanked: 499 times
Been thanked: 727 times

Re: New app for iPad

Post by hyperpape »

While I'm curious why there's $1.95 taken out, Apple has a clearly stated 30% policy. Could tax account for the difference?
User avatar
kirkmc
Lives in sente
Posts: 1072
Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:51 am
Rank: 5K KGS
GD Posts: 1165
KGS: Dogen
Location: Stratford-upon-Avon, England
Has thanked: 32 times
Been thanked: 70 times
Contact:

Re: New app for iPad

Post by kirkmc »

It's 30%. The rest is VAT. And that's why it is different for different countries. For example, since there's no VAT in the US, and sales tax doesn't get added, you'll get the full 70% for US sales. For other countries, you get 70% of the ex VAT price.
My blog about Macs and more: Kirkville
bspooky
Beginner
Posts: 17
Joined: Sat May 21, 2011 8:58 am
GD Posts: 0
Been thanked: 2 times

Re: New app for iPad

Post by bspooky »

Pffff. Pidly amount. Even ifi can get same content on website, itis nice having offline and supporting the work that has gone into the app and content.

It is downloading now. :mrgreen:
lobotommy
Lives in gote
Posts: 408
Joined: Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:01 am
Rank: EGF 3kyu
GD Posts: 0
Universal go server handle: tommyray (1d/2d)
Location: Poland, Gliwice
Has thanked: 127 times
Been thanked: 94 times

Re: New app for iPad

Post by lobotommy »

Downloading this app too.
Let the dev become rich! :)
Xyiana
Dies in gote
Posts: 49
Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:42 pm
GD Posts: 0
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 8 times

Re: New app for iPad

Post by Xyiana »

I bought this app. Price is o.k for me but i dont like that online FREE website is offering nice features missing from ipad offline version. Hope that there will be update soon. Link from ipad app to website is nice but at least for me this isnt equal to native app functionality.
Verdict - if you need offline joseki app this is good program worthy of those 2 beers :twisted: . If not, it is better to use free internet.
Post Reply