120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)

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Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)

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[go]$$Wcm70 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . 9 . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X 7 8 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 5 6 . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . 1 4 . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X 2 . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O 3 . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This gives black a wall, but it's eyeless. I see no way for black to capture me outright, as if we go far enough, F12 could die. As a result, I'll run as far north as black wants to push, then escape and at least see if I can counterattack. D11 is getting really... interesting right now. Capturing D11 is small, but at least it would make my groups safe.
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Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)

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[go]$$Wcm70 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O 0 . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I guess this move is obvious...
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Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)

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Can you guys only mark or number the previously played move? I keep looking for sequences that aren't there.
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Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)

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I updated the last post.
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Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)

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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O 1 . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

ImageNow, to see how my opponent responds, and try to counterattack if possible.
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Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)

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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O O . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . 2 . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This move seems weird, but I didn't want the following:
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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O 1 3 , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X . 2 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)

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if the black center group come under a white's large scale attack, the game can become again interesting. i suppose black should be safe, but white can make him to prove it

black has at least two moves to make his group comfortable:

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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O O . , a . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . B . b . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Spilling gasoline feels good.

I might be wrong, but probably not.
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Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)

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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O O . 3 . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . 2 . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Helps my weak group, threatens to cut black's jump. Depending on the black response, I am considering moves to chase or seal the black weak stones.
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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O O . O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X . . . 4 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I wanted to play on top, but I don't like this picture:
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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . 4 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O O . 3 . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X . . . 5 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . 2 . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O O . O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . 5 . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



Okay, this seems to prevent black from getting eyespace here, and it's sente against the life of the 4 stones. For now, I think that's enough. Additionally, it starts to make me points below, which I need urgently. Next, I'll have to decide between chasing black or just trying to use forcing moves to make as many points as I can.
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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O O . O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X 6 . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . O . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I wonder if he'll respond. My peep protects against his cut.
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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . 7 . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O O . O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . O . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



Going to see if I can force here and try to make territory on the top. We'll see. Might be asking too much, but I feel like pushing from the other side doesn't work either, and this leaves at least some chance of profit.
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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O O 8 O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . O . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Interesting response...
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Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)

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for obs only:
cut doesnt work...
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[go]$$Wcm89 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O 6 X 7 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X 5 4 8 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X 3 2 1 . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . 9 O O B O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . O . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . 9 . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O O X O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . O . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wc Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O b X a . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X 5 4 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X 3 2 1 . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . c O O X O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X d X X O X X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . O . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If black 'a', then white 'c', black 'b', and white 'd'. If black 'b', I'll take 'a', then atari again, then cut at 'c' to kill the cutting stones. I think black 'a' is scarier. Regardless, I read that I could fight the cut, so here goes!

Trigger:
If H11, G11.

If you took the first trigger, second trigger:
If H12, G12.
Someday I want to be strong enough to earn KGS[-].
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