115 - robinz v. 1986

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Re: 115 - robinz v. 1986

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this move is automatic, by my manual count i should be about 6 points ahead plus komi
standing still means going backwards
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Re: 115 - robinz v. 1986

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I've had a change of heart about playing this endgame - I see no point in dragging this game out for a few more days. I resign - I can clearly no longer make any significant dent in your lead of about 7/8 points. Thankyou very much for the game :)

I'm sure we both made a lot of mistakes in this game - but it was an awful lot of fun. (I like fighting, although I like it more when it goes better for me :lol:) I should never have let you get that ko in the lower right - that ultimately cost me the game, I think - one major reading fail and I could never come back.

Thanks again for the game. Now I am looking forward to reading the mountain of comments made by oberservers - thanks all in advance for all the good advice I'm sure I'm going to read :D (I'm particularly intrigued by all these comments towards the game when I thought the result was basically never in doubt - I am prepared to do a headdesk if it turns out I've missed some obvious way to make back a lot of points...)
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Re: 115 - robinz v. 1986

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Thanks for the game, guys.
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Re: 115 - robinz v. 1986

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Good Game.

Don't worry, robinz, some of those comments were stronger players counting the board. (I did it for practice, for instance).
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Good work, both of you. :)
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Re: 115 - robinz v. 1986

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Great game buddy & thank you

robinz- you are a amazing fighter! i can feel your spirit in this game and it was relentless, i'd like to play again sometime after my schedule gets a little more sane
:rambo:

im going to read the entire thread and study my mistakes, i already know my worst mistake was the big ugly group on the right side of the board, and not looking at every possible move

well its time to study
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c ya around :salute:
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Re: 115 - robinz v. 1986

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Congratulations to both of you. This has been a great game to watch and discuss - from start to finish!
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Re: 115 - robinz v. 1986

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Well, I'm glad we gave you strong players something interesting to rip apart :D Seriously, having just glanced through the comments, thanks to all, ez4u and topazg in particular, for some great analysis - not all of which I was able to take in at first glance. But I understood enough to be kicking myself at missing my chance in that final fight in the lower-left :oops:

I also find it interesting that, through much of the middlegame, we seem to have both thought we were behind :lol: It seems the concensus was that I was ahead at that point, so I clearly need to work on my counting (based on the count I gave in response to Mnemonic at about this point, after correcting myself, it seems the game was actually pretty level - which of course makes my talk of resignation ridiculous, but also doesn't suggest that 1986 needed to do anything desparate either).

And finally, to Ed and Kirby: if I'd known you were keen for the game to end in an actual score then I wouldn't have resigned. To be honest I should really have resigned right after the last ko fight ended when I indicated that I felt I ought to, but we'll see if my endgame play from then on was worthy of any "nice notes" from Ed (although I doubt it ;-)). I guess I should have tried the 3-3 in the upper left, but it honestly didn't even occur to me, white's corner looked just so solid - in a real life game I might try something like that when behind just to see what happens, but it seems kind of disrespectful in a Malkovich game.

Anyway - I'm glad we managed to entertain the observers. 1986: I'd be more than happy to play another Malkovich against you, although I think I need a bit of a breather first. And I can't promise the next game will be as entertaining as this one...
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Post by EdLee »

robinz,
robinz wrote:if I'd known you were keen for the game to end in an actual score
No, no, that was for your benefit, not for us. :) And 3-3 was also for you guys -- with no time limit, at least you had a chance to do a perfect life-and-death,
for both B and W; even if B had no chance to live, at least W had to have played every move correctly -- so it was for you. :)
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Re: 115 - robinz v. 1986

Post by perceval »

:clap:
one of the most entertaining malkovitch i ve seen.
Probably because we are close in level and i really felt crushed by the gigantic mess you mutually put yourself into; it would have given me nightmares to play this game with all the dan level hidden comments between each moves

and also, a lot of back and forth and suspens
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