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Post #21 Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:54 am 
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EGF is a bit stronger than equivalent AGA ranks
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E.g. an AGA 3 dan would probably be only about 1-2 dan in Europe

> AGA shodan entering first Euro tournament, 150 people
> 'oh, you're 1d AGA? So you're probably 2k here in Europe'
> eventually convince registration guy to let me enter as 1k EGF
> proceed to win 6 out of 8 games, winning against EGF 2ds, losing only to 3d and 4d (all even)
> highest kyu placement in tournament
> called out for sandbagging because EGF is clearly superior
> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Yeah, I think the rank thing was true in the past, but I think the EGF ranks have inflated a bit, from what I can tell, it's not 2 ranks anymore.

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Post #22 Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:02 pm 
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shapenaji wrote:
Araban wrote:
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EGF is a bit stronger than equivalent AGA ranks
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E.g. an AGA 3 dan would probably be only about 1-2 dan in Europe

> AGA shodan entering first Euro tournament, 150 people
> 'oh, you're 1d AGA? So you're probably 2k here in Europe'
> eventually convince registration guy to let me enter as 1k EGF
> proceed to win 6 out of 8 games, winning against EGF 2ds, losing only to 3d and 4d (all even)
> highest kyu placement in tournament
> called out for sandbagging because EGF is clearly superior
> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Yeah, I think the rank thing was true in the past, but I think the EGF ranks have inflated a bit, from what I can tell, it's not 2 ranks anymore.


I think that in the past players got their ranks in their home countries and promotion standards varied from country to country. Finland, France and Holland were supposedly tougher than other countries, for example. The toughness of promotion to and within dan ranks and the awarding of dan promotions by committees with high standards served to keep rank inflation under control. Now with the EGF rating system that control is less strict. It seems to be the case that, in general, rating systems based on using a formula are prone to inflation.

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Post #23 Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:08 pm 
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I would suggest telling the people your kgs rank and letting them make a decision based on that. They should have a lot of experience doing that conversion.

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Post #24 Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:17 pm 
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22 Go Professionals will be attending the US Go Congress.

http://www.gocongress.org/2013/attendees/vip

If you enjoy simuls, lectures and game reviews with professionals, this may be the most pros attending a congress per registered player in recent memory.

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Post #25 Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:41 pm 
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See everyone there!

In terms of ranks--strangely enough, it seems to vary from person to person. People always used to say that KGS ratings were stronger than the AGA ratings(e.g., a 6k KGS would be about 3k AGA), but personal experiences suggest this isn't true. In many cases, KGS ratings seem pretty close to AGA ratings, but not in others. Based on my observations at recent (i.e. the past 2 years) tournaments and congresses, if you do not have an AGA rating, you can safely enter as your KGS rating and see how it goes. That assumes you have a solid KGS rating--if not, I'd say go with your EGF rating. Sometimes your opponents will have improved since their last ranked games, and others will have over-promoted themselves... Basically, I think that scientific precision is neither feasible nor necessary.

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Post #26 Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:08 am 
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day one.. people are arriving and getting registered. things are getting setup.

yay

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Post #27 Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:19 am 
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i'm getting drunk in the airport lounge.
i'm gonna be so out of it when i arrive~

if you want an easy self pair win you should try and find me when i get there!

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Post #28 Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:31 pm 
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i'm getting drunk in the airport lounge.
i'm gonna be so out of it when i arrive~

if you want an easy self pair win you should try and find me when i get there!

Don't get too drunk, often. Your roommate is already converting your suite to a bar.

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