It is currently Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:02 pm

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 28 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2
Author Message
Offline
 Post subject: Re: 2013 Go Congress
Post #21 Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:54 am 
Lives in sente
User avatar

Posts: 1103
Location: Netherlands
Liked others: 408
Was liked: 422
Rank: EGF 4d
GD Posts: 952
Araban wrote:
Quote:
EGF is a bit stronger than equivalent AGA ranks
Quote:
E.g. an AGA 3 dan would probably be only about 1-2 dan in Europe

> AGA shodan entering first Euro tournament, 150 people
> 'oh, you're 1d AGA? So you're probably 2k here in Europe'
> eventually convince registration guy to let me enter as 1k EGF
> proceed to win 6 out of 8 games, winning against EGF 2ds, losing only to 3d and 4d (all even)
> highest kyu placement in tournament
> called out for sandbagging because EGF is clearly superior
> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Yeah, I think the rank thing was true in the past, but I think the EGF ranks have inflated a bit, from what I can tell, it's not 2 ranks anymore.

_________________
Tactics yes, Tact no...

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: 2013 Go Congress
Post #22 Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:02 pm 
Gosei

Posts: 1628
Liked others: 546
Was liked: 450
Rank: senior player
GD Posts: 1000
shapenaji wrote:
Araban wrote:
Quote:
EGF is a bit stronger than equivalent AGA ranks
Quote:
E.g. an AGA 3 dan would probably be only about 1-2 dan in Europe

> AGA shodan entering first Euro tournament, 150 people
> 'oh, you're 1d AGA? So you're probably 2k here in Europe'
> eventually convince registration guy to let me enter as 1k EGF
> proceed to win 6 out of 8 games, winning against EGF 2ds, losing only to 3d and 4d (all even)
> highest kyu placement in tournament
> called out for sandbagging because EGF is clearly superior
> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Yeah, I think the rank thing was true in the past, but I think the EGF ranks have inflated a bit, from what I can tell, it's not 2 ranks anymore.


I think that in the past players got their ranks in their home countries and promotion standards varied from country to country. Finland, France and Holland were supposedly tougher than other countries, for example. The toughness of promotion to and within dan ranks and the awarding of dan promotions by committees with high standards served to keep rank inflation under control. Now with the EGF rating system that control is less strict. It seems to be the case that, in general, rating systems based on using a formula are prone to inflation.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: 2013 Go Congress
Post #23 Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:08 pm 
Oza
User avatar

Posts: 2777
Location: Seattle, WA
Liked others: 251
Was liked: 549
KGS: oren
Tygem: oren740, orenl
IGS: oren
Wbaduk: oren
I would suggest telling the people your kgs rank and letting them make a decision based on that. They should have a lot of experience doing that conversion.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Professionals at US Go Congress
Post #24 Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:17 pm 
Dies in gote

Posts: 31
Liked others: 0
Was liked: 21
Rank: AGA 4 dan
22 Go Professionals will be attending the US Go Congress.

http://www.gocongress.org/2013/attendees/vip

If you enjoy simuls, lectures and game reviews with professionals, this may be the most pros attending a congress per registered player in recent memory.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: 2013 Go Congress
Post #25 Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:41 pm 
Lives in sente
User avatar

Posts: 932
Location: New York, NY
Liked others: 146
Was liked: 150
Rank: KGS 1k
Universal go server handle: judicata
See everyone there!

In terms of ranks--strangely enough, it seems to vary from person to person. People always used to say that KGS ratings were stronger than the AGA ratings(e.g., a 6k KGS would be about 3k AGA), but personal experiences suggest this isn't true. In many cases, KGS ratings seem pretty close to AGA ratings, but not in others. Based on my observations at recent (i.e. the past 2 years) tournaments and congresses, if you do not have an AGA rating, you can safely enter as your KGS rating and see how it goes. That assumes you have a solid KGS rating--if not, I'd say go with your EGF rating. Sometimes your opponents will have improved since their last ranked games, and others will have over-promoted themselves... Basically, I think that scientific precision is neither feasible nor necessary.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: 2013 Go Congress
Post #26 Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:08 am 
Oza

Posts: 2264
Liked others: 1180
Was liked: 553
day one.. people are arriving and getting registered. things are getting setup.

yay

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: 2013 Go Congress
Post #27 Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:19 am 
Lives with ko

Posts: 197
Liked others: 0
Was liked: 81
Rank: weak
KGS: often
i'm getting drunk in the airport lounge.
i'm gonna be so out of it when i arrive~

if you want an easy self pair win you should try and find me when i get there!

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: 2013 Go Congress
Post #28 Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:31 pm 
Lives in sente
User avatar

Posts: 866
Liked others: 318
Was liked: 345
often wrote:
i'm getting drunk in the airport lounge.
i'm gonna be so out of it when i arrive~

if you want an easy self pair win you should try and find me when i get there!

Don't get too drunk, often. Your roommate is already converting your suite to a bar.

_________________
- Brady
Want to see videos of low-dan mistakes and what to learn from them? Brady's Blunders

Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 28 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group