jyka wrote:Also, what is the ambiance of the congress ? Study ? party ? ...
Hi jyka, this depends on the individual and groups. During the US Open (in the morning to noon) and other tournaments, it's mostly quite serious and quiet. Between tournaments, some people play more Go, others spend time with their friends and family, so it depends.
jyka wrote:Hi, i have a question about tournament in go congress, as i'm french i'm wondering if my result can be accept on the EGF Rank ?
Also, what is the ambiance of the congress ? Study ? party ? ...
Thanks
EGF is a bit stronger than equivalent AGA ranks. When you register online, I'd bump it up two if I were you.
Ambiance is affected by location. I am told there are plenty of bars within walking distance of the campus, though the campus itself is dry. So, if you want to party, no probs. You can also find others to play go, cards including poker, board games, etc... Congress is what you make of it.
jyka wrote:Hi, i have a question about tournament in go congress, as i'm french i'm wondering if my result can be accept on the EGF Rank ?
AGA results are not currently suitable for the EGF ranking system, because of the disparity in rank. E.g. an AGA 3 dan would probably be only about 1-2 dan in Europe, so it is unfair to count results against such players as if they had rating 2300.
This also means you should probably register 2 ranks stronger than your European rank.
E.g. an AGA 3 dan would probably be only about 1-2 dan in Europe
> AGA shodan entering first Euro tournament, 150 people > 'oh, you're 1d AGA? So you're probably 2k here in Europe' > eventually convince registration guy to let me enter as 1k EGF > proceed to win 6 out of 8 games, winning against EGF 2ds, losing only to 3d and 4d (all even) > highest kyu placement in tournament > called out for sandbagging because EGF is clearly superior > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
E.g. an AGA 3 dan would probably be only about 1-2 dan in Europe
> AGA shodan entering first Euro tournament, 150 people > 'oh, you're 1d AGA? So you're probably 2k here in Europe' > eventually convince registration guy to let me enter as 1k EGF > proceed to win 6 out of 8 games, winning against EGF 2ds, losing only to 3d and 4d (all even) > highest kyu placement in tournament > called out for sandbagging because EGF is clearly superior > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah, I think the rank thing was true in the past, but I think the EGF ranks have inflated a bit, from what I can tell, it's not 2 ranks anymore.
E.g. an AGA 3 dan would probably be only about 1-2 dan in Europe
> AGA shodan entering first Euro tournament, 150 people > 'oh, you're 1d AGA? So you're probably 2k here in Europe' > eventually convince registration guy to let me enter as 1k EGF > proceed to win 6 out of 8 games, winning against EGF 2ds, losing only to 3d and 4d (all even) > highest kyu placement in tournament > called out for sandbagging because EGF is clearly superior > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah, I think the rank thing was true in the past, but I think the EGF ranks have inflated a bit, from what I can tell, it's not 2 ranks anymore.
I think that in the past players got their ranks in their home countries and promotion standards varied from country to country. Finland, France and Holland were supposedly tougher than other countries, for example. The toughness of promotion to and within dan ranks and the awarding of dan promotions by committees with high standards served to keep rank inflation under control. Now with the EGF rating system that control is less strict. It seems to be the case that, in general, rating systems based on using a formula are prone to inflation.
I would suggest telling the people your kgs rank and letting them make a decision based on that. They should have a lot of experience doing that conversion.
If you enjoy simuls, lectures and game reviews with professionals, this may be the most pros attending a congress per registered player in recent memory.
In terms of ranks--strangely enough, it seems to vary from person to person. People always used to say that KGS ratings were stronger than the AGA ratings(e.g., a 6k KGS would be about 3k AGA), but personal experiences suggest this isn't true. In many cases, KGS ratings seem pretty close to AGA ratings, but not in others. Based on my observations at recent (i.e. the past 2 years) tournaments and congresses, if you do not have an AGA rating, you can safely enter as your KGS rating and see how it goes. That assumes you have a solid KGS rating--if not, I'd say go with your EGF rating. Sometimes your opponents will have improved since their last ranked games, and others will have over-promoted themselves... Basically, I think that scientific precision is neither feasible nor necessary.
